Ted Genard, Volare
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8/23/2018 3:36 PM
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Bill,
I’m in Noank. Thanks for the info. Sounds like you got algae, slime & squirts. Better than barnacles & mussels I guess. Will be curious as to how you make out at haul out.
Ted
Ted,
6 years ago I used this on a larger sloop I keep in Black Rock Harbor on Long Island Sound. Went over a Micron ablative. Paint is a pleasure to use, easy clean up, and it adhered well. Performance, though, was not great for me that season. No barnacles or mussels, but attracted everything else. I went back to Micron, but this year, due to miscommunication, the yard put on a coat of hydro coat. I wasn’t happy given my prior experience but it is actually doing ok this season. Maybe they changed the formula? Won’t have full report until I haul but I think we’re OK.
Bill Does anyone have any opinions on Petit Hydrocoat? Water based Coplymer Ablative. I have hard paint on the bottom now but will be exploring a strip and possibly a barrier coat as well and switch to ablative.
Thanks,
Ted Genard
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Bill Maloney
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8/23/2018 2:31 PM
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Ted,
6 years ago I used this on a larger sloop I keep in Black Rock Harbor on Long Island Sound. Went over a Micron ablative. Paint is a pleasure to use, easy clean up, and it adhered well. Performance, though, was not great for me that season. No barnacles or mussels, but attracted everything else. I went back to Micron, but this year, due to miscommunication, the yard put on a coat of hydro coat. I wasn’t happy given my prior experience but it is actually doing ok this season. Maybe they changed the formula? Won’t have full report until I haul but I think we’re OK.
Bill Does anyone have any opinions on Petit Hydrocoat? Water based Coplymer Ablative. I have hard paint on the bottom now but will be exploring a strip and possibly a barrier coat as well and switch to ablative.
Thanks,
Ted Genard
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Ted Genard, Volare
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8/23/2018 12:50 PM
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Hi Bud,
Thanks for your reply. Yes familiar with all of what you said. I’m cruising not racing and am looking for low maintenance. I may have some blistering in the keel aft of the ballast that we will look at when we haul in the fall. If we don’t “need” the barrier coat we’ll just go ablative over whatever hard paint is left after the bottom is taken care of, smooth (old paint in spots or no) and blisters fixed. I’m just looking for input on this particular product.
Thanks, Ted
Ted, I have no experience with
Petit Hydrocoat, but I do have some experience with ablative bottom paint.At one point, I decided to go to 'Cruise Mode' with my Ensign. The application of a softer, ablative paint worked fine, and could even be applied over the much harder VC Offshore, but I was less than thrilled about the pitting that occurred to the ablative's finish as the paint addressed marine life. Ablative paint is supposed to be 'self-polishing', but in my experience, that does not translate to the smoothest, fastest bottom. It translates into a constantly pitted surface on the bottom, and if you are willing to make that trade off, then perhaps ablative paint is for you. The ablative paint was beautiful for low maintenance, 'Cruise Mode', but when I decided to start racing again, every bit of it had to be stripped off the hull in prep for the application of a faster, hard, racing finish (VC Offshore).
Ablative paint is great for cruising, day sailing, low maintenance, dry sailing, or storing the boat out of the water for long periods of time, but does not provide for the fastest bottom. Ablative paint can be applied over a sanded, harder paint. However, ablative paint must be removed completely before a harder paint can be applied again to the hull. Softer over harder is fine. Harder over softer is a lot of work. Just know if you decide to go back, that is the consequence. If you're not worried about speed, ablative paint might be the way to go. If you do not have surface defects already (blisters), you might not even need more barrier coat. https://www.bottompaintstore.com/blog/bottom-paint/difference-hard-bottom-paint-ablative-bottom-paint/
Hope this helps...
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Bud Brown
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8/23/2018 12:25 PM
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Ted, I have no experience with
Petit Hydrocoat, but I do have some experience with ablative bottom paint.At one point, I decided to go to 'Cruise Mode' with my Ensign. The application of a softer, ablative paint worked fine, and could even be applied over the much harder VC Offshore, but I was less than thrilled about the pitting that occurred to the ablative's finish as the paint addressed marine life. Ablative paint is supposed to be 'self-polishing', but in my experience, that does not translate to the smoothest, fastest bottom. It translates into a constantly pitted surface on the bottom, and if you are willing to make that trade off, then perhaps ablative paint is for you. The ablative paint was beautiful for low maintenance, 'Cruise Mode', but when I decided to start racing again, every bit of it had to be stripped off the hull in prep for the application of a faster, hard, racing finish (VC Offshore).
Ablative paint is great for cruising, day sailing, low maintenance, dry sailing, or storing the boat out of the water for long periods of time, but does not provide for the fastest bottom. Ablative paint can be applied over a sanded, harder paint. However, ablative paint must be removed completely before a harder paint can be applied again to the hull. Softer over harder is fine. Harder over softer is a lot of work. Just know if you decide to go back, that is the consequence. If you're not worried about speed, ablative paint might be the way to go. If you do not have surface defects already (blisters), you might not even need more barrier coat. https://www.bottompaintstore.com/blog/bottom-paint/difference-hard-bottom-paint-ablative-bottom-paint/
Hope this helps...
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Ted Genard, Volare
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8/23/2018 10:16 AM
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Does anyone have any opinions on Petit Hydrocoat? Water based Coplymer Ablative. I have hard paint on the bottom now but will be exploring a strip and possibly a barrier coat as well and switch to ablative.
Thanks,
Ted Genard
Volare #512
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