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How to install new winches?
Mitch Kayden

I have 2 winches that I want to remove and replace with a new set. I'd like to get some advice as to what is involved. Thanks.

Gay De Hart

We remove our winches every year so our canvass cover will not chafe. It is a awkward but pretty simple operation to remove the casing on the winches and remove the screws holding them to the base. It helps to have two people, one to hold the nut underneath with a rachet while the other unscrews from the top but it can be done with one person in pinch. Just be prepared to contort yourself a bit. Patience is a virtue in all these things! And having something underneath the winch when you inevitably drop the nut or washer is helpful so you are not scrambling to see where it bounced.

You might want to see if the new winches will be able to use the same set of holes and if not, think about reinforcing with some extra epoxy or something to maintain the strength of the base.

 

Others with more experience might have other ideas but I’d say its pretty easy to do.

 

 

 

Bud Brown
Mitch,

Removing old winches is relatively easy, but the method differs from brand to brand.

Lorelei has Lewmar winches, which has a circlip that retains the winch body. Removing the circlip allows access to the heads of the mounting screws (see image).

You can usually get at least one hole to line up, as long as it doesn't cause the winch to be too badly offset from the center of the pedestal, which of course is ideal.

Helpful tools are a mirror, sockets and a proper driver for the head of the mounting screw.

Placing a pillow case sized cloth under the winch will help catch any washers and nuts. Using something like that (a kitchen garbage bag?) is better than chasing fasteners in the bilge.

BTW... wasps absolutely LOVE to build their nests in the hollow, pedestal underside, so you might want to CAREFULLY use the mirror to glance in there first.

If the holes for the new winch don't line up with the old ones... well, that is a bit of a problem. There's a lot of load on those pedestals and numerous holes will weaken the mounting surface. A single, large, metal backup plate with a matching hole pattern for the underside might suffice, but a properly scarfed, fiberglass repair would be the surest bet.

One of my pedestals failed on a windy day and there's an article in the ECA website library about the repair which you might find useful:


Best of luck! I hope your winch replacement is super easy.

Bud Brown




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Bud Brown

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Bud Brown
OK...

That link leads you to a 'teaser' intro to the real article...

Turns out you have to be an ECA member to read the entire article. Log in to the website first, then click on on THIS link:


The full story on a pedestal repair...

Good luck!

BB

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Mitch,

Removing old winches is relatively easy, but the method differs from brand to brand.

Lorelei has Lewmar winches, which has a circlip that retains the winch body. Removing the circlip allows access to the heads of the mounting screws (see image).

You can usually get at least one hole to line up, as long as it doesn't cause the winch to be too badly offset from the center of the pedestal, which of course is ideal.

Helpful tools are a mirror, sockets and a proper driver for the head of the mounting screw.

Placing a pillow case sized cloth under the winch will help catch any washers and nuts. Using something like that (a kitchen garbage bag?) is better than chasing fasteners in the bilge.

BTW... wasps absolutely LOVE to build their nests in the hollow, pedestal underside, so you might want to CAREFULLY use the mirror to glance in there first.

If the holes for the new winch don't line up with the old ones... well, that is a bit of a problem. There's a lot of load on those pedestals and numerous holes will weaken the mounting surface. A single, large, metal backup plate with a matching hole pattern for the underside might suffice, but a properly scarfed, fiberglass repair would be the surest bet.

One of my pedestals failed on a windy day and there's an article in the ECA website library about the repair which you might find useful:


Best of luck! I hope your winch replacement is super easy.

Bud Brown




--
Best regards,

Bud Brown

281.468.6909 cell and text

Bud Brown
(Sigh...)

And I forgot to include the image of the circlips...

Attached...

BB

On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 9:50 PM Bud Brown (sailorbud1085@gmail.com) <ensignsailing@ensignclass.com> wrote:
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OK...

That link leads you to a 'teaser' intro to the real article...

Turns out you have to be an ECA member to read the entire article. Log in to the website first, then click on on THIS link:


The full story on a pedestal repair...

Good luck!

BB



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Best regards,

Bud Brown

281.468.6909 cell and text

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